Alpen-Panoramen, Panorama der Alpen

Das schlechtes Wetter SOOOOOOO schön sein kann ....

Grandios!! Ein wahrer Tauerntraum ... vor allem der Abschnitt zwischen Sonnwelleck und Venediger mit den tiefliegenden Wochen unten und der strahlendweißen Glocknergruppe darüber ist der Hammer! Vielen Dank für´s Teilen dieser fantastischen Stimmung mit uns, die wir es leider nicht live vor Ort erleben konnten. Viele Grüße, Andre

eigentlich *****

VG Danko.

Das ist ein Geschenk, wenn man ein solches Licht in eine Pano giessen darf. VG Martin

Traumhafte Stimmung, Uta!!!

Wundervolles Panorama

Top class in every sense. A-p deserves more quality than too many recent panoramas give. I think that four stars for this photo CANNOT HAVE the same meaning as other four stars. We still talked about it some time ago. Let's try to return to the original spirit of rating photos. It's not a foult to be critical and objective. I want to invite all participants to give ratings according to strict assessment criteria relating only to the photo, and not to the photographer. We all know evaluation categories: general framing, balance between light and dark, between sky and mountains, sharpness, originality, novelty, relevance of a mountain range... I also ask all photographers to try to improve the quality of the panoramas in order to align it to the best practice. Improvement is a benefit for everyone; objective and possibly uniform evaluations are important for improving quality.
What do you think about that?
Ciao, Alvise

Ciao Alvise,
in no way I'm really competitive to most and many of the photographers here but up to a certain time in the past I tried hard to improve. I very much agree in your appeal but have to confess that I just gave up - I disliked the common practice where ratings given on each and every pano simply generated more ratings received (human behaviour)- so I became a dormant user and a-p is now just a personal diary ... but I support your call, hence the comment.

... I see it just the same way as Hans-Jürgen and Martin. The star-rating system has become a system where it just counts how many users have given four stars - the stars themselves have become obliterate.
I myself try hard to imrove and would really appreciate hints as to my mistakes instead of just seeing panos unrated - and uncommented.
The problem is (probably a human one again), that I myself don't find it easy to give comments on problematic panos - just because no one else has commented on them and I feel far from playing an eligible "big shot" here. I feel I just don't want to go patronizing around hurting people's feelings - but that's part of the problem, probably.
It's the culture of commenting and giving and accepting advice that should be worked on here. I'm sure the whole a-p community would benefit from it!
Anyway - sorry Uta for the controversial remark -
ist ja nicht das erste deiner Panos das einen langen Diskussionstreifen hinterlassen hat. Dein Pano ist wieder mal erste Sahne :)
Greets, Michael

I agree so much to what you said. So I wait for the first real one-star, two-star or three-star-ratings.

Absolut gigantisch! LG Fried

Was für fette Farben! Stark.
Rechts darf gern noch bisschen beschriftet werden.

...zu einer neuen Steigerungsfähigkeit!
Ein Impuls der aufstellt! Gefällt mir!
Gruss Walter

thanks for your refreshing comment.

We have discussed the rating system a few times and I'd have a lot to say, but I think this is maybe not the core of the issue. In my eyes, the current practice of counting "I like" **** ratings gives a ranking just as good as returning to usage of *, ** and ***.

The main issue that you're hinting at is attitude - do photographers want to improve or do they just collect stars? Improvement only goes by learning and discussion. Restricting to only positive comments blocks both. As much as I appreciate positive feedback, I would be happy about more critical remarks and suggestions to my panos, and I would be happy to learn more from discussions on other people's panos. I wouldn't see a contradiction between giving **** and still some remarks on opportunities for further improvement. This is all not so much about the number of stars, but on how to use the comment box.

In some cases (also recently), photographers don't even bother to react on comments and suggestions which shows they don't seem to have an interest in learning. I have decided not to argue with them but to ignore these going forward.

@Uta - sorry for using your beautiful pano for this discussion, but unfortunately there's no general purpose forum on this site.

Cheers,
Martin

Wooow!! Gruss Toni

Ein Schlechtwetterpanorama vom allerfeinsten!
LG, Toni

wer kann bei so einer Sicht schon absteigen! Toll!!

***** :-) Lg

ein Glück, zu diesem Zeitpunkt dort zu sein! LG Peter